Suggested Graphics Programs for use with VS

Hello -
I have developed the world's ugliest website -- functions well, but it
leaves a lot to be desired aesthetically.
What are the recommended web graphics programs to integrate with Visual
Studio projects? I don't want to just go out and buy something without
knowing it works well with VS.
Also, how would you integrate it? Just copy and paste stuff?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
--
SandyMicrosoft has several visual editing tools in beta that can generate UI
elements but these tools are for future releases of Vista and so on. There's
really nothing available now in the context I think you are asking.
I've used PaintShop Pro (PSP) for years myself. It is inexpensive, generally
considered easy to use, and rivals the over-priced PhotoShop. Use PSP for
screen captures of various elements from other sites and paste up various
'comps' (compositions) as reference works. I also recommend you use a
reference book such as "Designer's Guide To Color 2" as it is an excellent
resource for color combinations you can recreate using PSP.
Some of the basic techniques designer's use to make page elements distintive
are 'over-lays' and 'juxtapositions' which is artsy-fartsy talk you may be
able to understand simply by observing the use of these techniques at my
current homepage noting I had to beat myself up with CSS to get the effect
without turning the page into an over-weight slow loading sleeper. I'm also
still using multiple stylesheets because IE has been crippleware and I
haven't mastered the dozen and more CSS hacks IE requires to build
'standards compliant' GUIs.
Get a grip on color, page layout, and a couple of artsy-fartsy techniques
and you're all set for a clean page with distinctive design elements but
remember to go easy on the eye shadow ;-)
<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
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nce
"Sandy" <Sandy@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8C416C92-207F-44EE-AE08-D32FFA07DC47@.microsoft.com...
> Hello -
> I have developed the world's ugliest website -- functions well, but it
> leaves a lot to be desired aesthetically.
> What are the recommended web graphics programs to integrate with Visual
> Studio projects? I don't want to just go out and buy something without
> knowing it works well with VS.
> Also, how would you integrate it? Just copy and paste stuff?
> Any help will be greatly appreciated!
> --
> Sandy
re:
> I've used PaintShop Pro (PSP) for years
That's a good choice.
I use Snagit :
http://www.techsmith.com/products/snagit/default.asp
It does everything I need to do.
PhotoShop is overkill for most situations but
for specialized requirements, it can't be beat.
Its learning curve is quite stiff, though.
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"clintonG" < csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee
.com> wrote in message
news:uLX$QwqxFHA.664@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft has several visual editing tools in beta that can generate UI el
ements but
> these tools are for future releases of Vista and so on. There's really not
hing available
> now in the context I think you are asking.
> I've used PaintShop Pro (PSP) for years myself. It is inexpensive, general
ly considered
> easy to use, and rivals the over-priced PhotoShop. Use PSP for screen capt
ures of
> various elements from other sites and paste up various 'comps' (compositio
ns) as
> reference works. I also recommend you use a reference book such as "Design
er's Guide To
> Color 2" as it is an excellent resource for color combinations you can rec
reate using
> PSP.
> Some of the basic techniques designer's use to make page elements distinti
ve are
> 'over-lays' and 'juxtapositions' which is artsy-fartsy talk you may be abl
e to
> understand simply by observing the use of these techniques at my current h
omepage noting
> I had to beat myself up with CSS to get the effect without turning the pag
e into an
> over-weight slow loading sleeper. I'm also still using multiple stylesheet
s because IE
> has been crippleware and I haven't mastered the dozen and more CSS hacks I
E requires to
> build 'standards compliant' GUIs.
> Get a grip on color, page layout, and a couple of artsy-fartsy techniques
and you're all
> set for a clean page with distinctive design elements but remember to go e
asy on the eye
> shadow ;-)
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
> [1]
> [url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009WDTIE/104-9118257-0723165?v=glance[/u
rl]

> "Sandy" <Sandy@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8C416C92-207F-44EE-AE08-D32FFA07DC47@.microsoft.com...
>
PSP is exceptionally good.
However, when I read this post, I thought the OP 'May' be talking about
general presentation rather than just the graphics themselves, such as that
made easier by using packages like Front Page or Dreamweaver etc.
On that subject, I do know two professional designers ( ASP.NET ) who use
third parties to create their design and then back-engineer ( or add
accurately ) the coding to fit the ASP.NET model.
This way, they dont have the less than intuative VS interface for designing
web sites but have the benefit of all the managability features already
built in to Front Page for example.
This can present difficulties in itself and you really have to know what
your doing, but it's how some people work.
It would be nice if one day Front Page could be absorbed into Visual Studio
( At least all the good bits )
;-)
Regards - Mr N
"Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@.nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:urQ7G$qxFHA.3856@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> re:
> That's a good choice.
> I use Snagit :
> http://www.techsmith.com/products/snagit/default.asp
> It does everything I need to do.
> PhotoShop is overkill for most situations but
> for specialized requirements, it can't be beat.
> Its learning curve is quite stiff, though.
>
> Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
> ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
> Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
> ======================================
> "clintonG" < csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee
.com> wrote in message
> news:uLX$QwqxFHA.664@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
Your comments about Colour are both interesting and incisive.
I think teaching Software Engineers to appreciate Colour may be more
difficult than teaching artists to design web sites. Logical thinkers
rarely make great artists in my humble opinion (get ready for the
flames!!!), although I am sure there are exceptions to the rule.
Marketing departments also have their own interesting take on use of
colours; apparently colours signify things to people. For example, the Roman
Purple/Blue promotes a feeling of reliability, depth and maturity.
All good stuff as they say !
Cheers - Mr N. . . .
"clintonG" < csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee
.com> wrote in message
news:uLX$QwqxFHA.664@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft has several visual editing tools in beta that can generate UI
> elements but these tools are for future releases of Vista and so on.
> There's really nothing available now in the context I think you are
> asking.
> I've used PaintShop Pro (PSP) for years myself. It is inexpensive,
> generally considered easy to use, and rivals the over-priced PhotoShop.
> Use PSP for screen captures of various elements from other sites and paste
> up various 'comps' (compositions) as reference works. I also recommend you
> use a reference book such as "Designer's Guide To Color 2" as it is an
> excellent resource for color combinations you can recreate using PSP.
> Some of the basic techniques designer's use to make page elements
> distintive are 'over-lays' and 'juxtapositions' which is artsy-fartsy talk
> you may be able to understand simply by observing the use of these
> techniques at my current homepage noting I had to beat myself up with CSS
> to get the effect without turning the page into an over-weight slow
> loading sleeper. I'm also still using multiple stylesheets because IE has
> been crippleware and I haven't mastered the dozen and more CSS hacks IE
> requires to build 'standards compliant' GUIs.
> Get a grip on color, page layout, and a couple of artsy-fartsy techniques
> and you're all set for a clean page with distinctive design elements but
> remember to go easy on the eye shadow ;-)
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
> [1]
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=g
lance
>
> "Sandy" <Sandy@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8C416C92-207F-44EE-AE08-D32FFA07DC47@.microsoft.com...
>

Suggested Graphics Programs for use with VS

Hello -

I have developed the world's ugliest website -- functions well, but it
leaves a lot to be desired aesthetically.

What are the recommended web graphics programs to integrate with Visual
Studio projects? I don't want to just go out and buy something without
knowing it works well with VS.

Also, how would you integrate it? Just copy and paste stuff?

Any help will be greatly appreciated!
--
SandyMicrosoft has several visual editing tools in beta that can generate UI
elements but these tools are for future releases of Vista and so on. There's
really nothing available now in the context I think you are asking.

I've used PaintShop Pro (PSP) for years myself. It is inexpensive, generally
considered easy to use, and rivals the over-priced PhotoShop. Use PSP for
screen captures of various elements from other sites and paste up various
'comps' (compositions) as reference works. I also recommend you use a
reference book such as "Designer's Guide To Color 2" as it is an excellent
resource for color combinations you can recreate using PSP.

Some of the basic techniques designer's use to make page elements distintive
are 'over-lays' and 'juxtapositions' which is artsy-fartsy talk you may be
able to understand simply by observing the use of these techniques at my
current homepage noting I had to beat myself up with CSS to get the effect
without turning the page into an over-weight slow loading sleeper. I'm also
still using multiple stylesheets because IE has been crippleware and I
haven't mastered the dozen and more CSS hacks IE requires to build
'standards compliant' GUIs.

Get a grip on color, page layout, and a couple of artsy-fartsy techniques
and you're all set for a clean page with distinctive design elements but
remember to go easy on the eye shadow ;-)

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1]
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...723165?v=glance

"Sandy" <Sandy@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8C416C92-207F-44EE-AE08-D32FFA07DC47@.microsoft.com...
> Hello -
> I have developed the world's ugliest website -- functions well, but it
> leaves a lot to be desired aesthetically.
> What are the recommended web graphics programs to integrate with Visual
> Studio projects? I don't want to just go out and buy something without
> knowing it works well with VS.
> Also, how would you integrate it? Just copy and paste stuff?
> Any help will be greatly appreciated!
> --
> Sandy
re:
> I've used PaintShop Pro (PSP) for years

That's a good choice.

I use Snagit :

http://www.techsmith.com/products/snagit/default.asp

It does everything I need to do.

PhotoShop is overkill for most situations but
for specialized requirements, it can't be beat.

Its learning curve is quite stiff, though.

Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"clintonG" <csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
news:uLX$QwqxFHA.664@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft has several visual editing tools in beta that can generate UI elements but
> these tools are for future releases of Vista and so on. There's really nothing available
> now in the context I think you are asking.
> I've used PaintShop Pro (PSP) for years myself. It is inexpensive, generally considered
> easy to use, and rivals the over-priced PhotoShop. Use PSP for screen captures of
> various elements from other sites and paste up various 'comps' (compositions) as
> reference works. I also recommend you use a reference book such as "Designer's Guide To
> Color 2" as it is an excellent resource for color combinations you can recreate using
> PSP.
> Some of the basic techniques designer's use to make page elements distintive are
> 'over-lays' and 'juxtapositions' which is artsy-fartsy talk you may be able to
> understand simply by observing the use of these techniques at my current homepage noting
> I had to beat myself up with CSS to get the effect without turning the page into an
> over-weight slow loading sleeper. I'm also still using multiple stylesheets because IE
> has been crippleware and I haven't mastered the dozen and more CSS hacks IE requires to
> build 'standards compliant' GUIs.
> Get a grip on color, page layout, and a couple of artsy-fartsy techniques and you're all
> set for a clean page with distinctive design elements but remember to go easy on the eye
> shadow ;-)
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
> [1]
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...723165?v=glance

> "Sandy" <Sandy@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8C416C92-207F-44EE-AE08-D32FFA07DC47@.microsoft.com...
>> Hello -
>>
>> I have developed the world's ugliest website -- functions well, but it
>> leaves a lot to be desired aesthetically.
>>
>> What are the recommended web graphics programs to integrate with Visual
>> Studio projects? I don't want to just go out and buy something without
>> knowing it works well with VS.
>>
>> Also, how would you integrate it? Just copy and paste stuff?
>>
>> Any help will be greatly appreciated!
>> --
>> Sandy
PSP is exceptionally good.

However, when I read this post, I thought the OP 'May' be talking about
general presentation rather than just the graphics themselves, such as that
made easier by using packages like Front Page or Dreamweaver etc.

On that subject, I do know two professional designers ( ASP.NET ) who use
third parties to create their design and then back-engineer ( or add
accurately ) the coding to fit the ASP.NET model.

This way, they dont have the less than intuative VS interface for designing
web sites but have the benefit of all the managability features already
built in to Front Page for example.

This can present difficulties in itself and you really have to know what
your doing, but it's how some people work.

It would be nice if one day Front Page could be absorbed into Visual Studio
( At least all the good bits )

;-)

Regards - Mr N

"Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@.nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:urQ7G$qxFHA.3856@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> re:
>> I've used PaintShop Pro (PSP) for years
> That's a good choice.
> I use Snagit :
> http://www.techsmith.com/products/snagit/default.asp
> It does everything I need to do.
> PhotoShop is overkill for most situations but
> for specialized requirements, it can't be beat.
> Its learning curve is quite stiff, though.
>
> Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
> ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
> Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
> ======================================
> "clintonG" <csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
> news:uLX$QwqxFHA.664@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Microsoft has several visual editing tools in beta that can generate UI
>> elements but these tools are for future releases of Vista and so on.
>> There's really nothing available now in the context I think you are
>> asking.
>>
>> I've used PaintShop Pro (PSP) for years myself. It is inexpensive,
>> generally considered easy to use, and rivals the over-priced PhotoShop.
>> Use PSP for screen captures of various elements from other sites and
>> paste up various 'comps' (compositions) as reference works. I also
>> recommend you use a reference book such as "Designer's Guide To Color 2"
>> as it is an excellent resource for color combinations you can recreate
>> using PSP.
>>
>> Some of the basic techniques designer's use to make page elements
>> distintive are 'over-lays' and 'juxtapositions' which is artsy-fartsy
>> talk you may be able to understand simply by observing the use of these
>> techniques at my current homepage noting I had to beat myself up with CSS
>> to get the effect without turning the page into an over-weight slow
>> loading sleeper. I'm also still using multiple stylesheets because IE has
>> been crippleware and I haven't mastered the dozen and more CSS hacks IE
>> requires to build 'standards compliant' GUIs.
>>
>> Get a grip on color, page layout, and a couple of artsy-fartsy techniques
>> and you're all set for a clean page with distinctive design elements but
>> remember to go easy on the eye shadow ;-)
>>
>> <%= Clinton Gallagher
>> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
>> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
>> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
>> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...723165?v=glance
>
>> "Sandy" <Sandy@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8C416C92-207F-44EE-AE08-D32FFA07DC47@.microsoft.com...
>>> Hello -
>>>
>>> I have developed the world's ugliest website -- functions well, but it
>>> leaves a lot to be desired aesthetically.
>>>
>>> What are the recommended web graphics programs to integrate with Visual
>>> Studio projects? I don't want to just go out and buy something without
>>> knowing it works well with VS.
>>>
>>> Also, how would you integrate it? Just copy and paste stuff?
>>>
>>> Any help will be greatly appreciated!
>>> --
>>> Sandy
>>
>>
Your comments about Colour are both interesting and incisive.

I think teaching Software Engineers to appreciate Colour may be more
difficult than teaching artists to design web sites. Logical thinkers
rarely make great artists in my humble opinion (get ready for the
flames!!!), although I am sure there are exceptions to the rule.

Marketing departments also have their own interesting take on use of
colours; apparently colours signify things to people. For example, the Roman
Purple/Blue promotes a feeling of reliability, depth and maturity.

All good stuff as they say !

Cheers - Mr N. . . .

"clintonG" <csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
news:uLX$QwqxFHA.664@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft has several visual editing tools in beta that can generate UI
> elements but these tools are for future releases of Vista and so on.
> There's really nothing available now in the context I think you are
> asking.
> I've used PaintShop Pro (PSP) for years myself. It is inexpensive,
> generally considered easy to use, and rivals the over-priced PhotoShop.
> Use PSP for screen captures of various elements from other sites and paste
> up various 'comps' (compositions) as reference works. I also recommend you
> use a reference book such as "Designer's Guide To Color 2" as it is an
> excellent resource for color combinations you can recreate using PSP.
> Some of the basic techniques designer's use to make page elements
> distintive are 'over-lays' and 'juxtapositions' which is artsy-fartsy talk
> you may be able to understand simply by observing the use of these
> techniques at my current homepage noting I had to beat myself up with CSS
> to get the effect without turning the page into an over-weight slow
> loading sleeper. I'm also still using multiple stylesheets because IE has
> been crippleware and I haven't mastered the dozen and more CSS hacks IE
> requires to build 'standards compliant' GUIs.
> Get a grip on color, page layout, and a couple of artsy-fartsy techniques
> and you're all set for a clean page with distinctive design elements but
> remember to go easy on the eye shadow ;-)
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
> [1]
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...723165?v=glance
>
> "Sandy" <Sandy@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8C416C92-207F-44EE-AE08-D32FFA07DC47@.microsoft.com...
>> Hello -
>>
>> I have developed the world's ugliest website -- functions well, but it
>> leaves a lot to be desired aesthetically.
>>
>> What are the recommended web graphics programs to integrate with Visual
>> Studio projects? I don't want to just go out and buy something without
>> knowing it works well with VS.
>>
>> Also, how would you integrate it? Just copy and paste stuff?
>>
>> Any help will be greatly appreciated!
>> --
>> Sandy

Suggested Books

Hello all.

I'm new to ASP.NET and I'm looking for a book to help me get going here.

I will be doing ASP.NET using VisualSudio.NET.

Can anyone recommend a good book that covers the two together?

- JStephen Walther's book "ASP.NET Unleashed" by SAMS is a good one.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=books&n=507846

--
I hope this helps,
Steve C. Orr, MCSD
http://Steve.Orr.net

"Jay" <jerry280@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uGixsqGUDHA.1992@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hello all.
> I'm new to ASP.NET and I'm looking for a book to help me get going here.
> I will be doing ASP.NET using VisualSudio.NET.
> Can anyone recommend a good book that covers the two together?
> - J
The first edition is released. I have it.
I guess the second edition is not released yet.
Here's a better link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books

--
I hope this helps,
Steve C. Orr, MCSD
http://Steve.Orr.net

"Jay" <jerry280@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OHWNkuHUDHA.1724@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> any idea when this book gets released?
> Thanks for the suggesstion!!!
> - J
> "Steve C. Orr, MCSD" <Steve@.Orr.net> wrote in message
> news:O34z1aHUDHA.3640@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Stephen Walther's book "ASP.NET Unleashed" by SAMS is a good one.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=books&n=507846
> > --
> > I hope this helps,
> > Steve C. Orr, MCSD
> > http://Steve.Orr.net
> > "Jay" <jerry280@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:uGixsqGUDHA.1992@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Hello all.
> > > > I'm new to ASP.NET and I'm looking for a book to help me get going
here.
> > > > I will be doing ASP.NET using VisualSudio.NET.
> > > > Can anyone recommend a good book that covers the two together?
> > > > - J
> >

Suggested Microsoft way

Lately I came to know that Microsoft is suggesting to go with underscore for
naming convention for variables (Am I right?).

Ex: Dim strMyName as String --> Dim str_MyName as String

Any one has any comments. Am I talking some thing does not makes sense. If
you have any URL which tells the Microsoft suggested way on coding standard
please share with me.

Thank you very much.

MarioHaven't heard that. Last I heard, MS was recommending against that
sort of overaggressive hungarian notation in favor of camelCasing and
reliance on Intellisense to remind you of types. They've also dropped
the m_'s for members in favor of a simple underscore:

Dim myName as String

Dim _myPrivateMemberVariable as Int

Jason Kester
Expat Software Consulting Services
http://www.expatsoftware.com/
"Mario Novado" <MNovado@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O6wpqACpFHA.2580@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Lately I came to know that Microsoft is suggesting to go with underscore
> for
> naming convention for variables (Am I right?).

For readability, an "applicant_last_name" is easier to recognize than an
"ApplicantLastName".

It is also easier for disabled persons to read (Section 508 compliance). I
could be wrong on this part (s-508).

John
I found these interesting links.

Naming conventions from MSDN
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...gguidelines.asp

Designing .NET class libraries: Naming Conventions (they talk about banning
the use of Hungarian notation)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframew...ingconventions/

MSDN link about capitalization
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...ationstyles.asp

This one has a chat with Brad Abrams (sp).
http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/tra...ven_012605.aspx

From what I've read, they are trying to de-emphasize the hungarian notation
for publicly exposed members in favour of Pascal naming (upper case and no
underscores).

Suggested Microsoft way

Lately I came to know that Microsoft is suggesting to go with underscore for
naming convention for variables (Am I right?).
Ex: Dim strMyName as String --> Dim str_MyName as String
Any one has any comments. Am I talking some thing does not makes sense. If
you have any URL which tells the Microsoft suggested way on coding standard
please share with me.
Thank you very much.
MarioHaven't heard that. Last I heard, MS was recommending against that
sort of overaggressive hungarian notation in favor of camelCasing and
reliance on Intellisense to remind you of types. They've also dropped
the m_'s for members in favor of a simple underscore:
Dim myName as String
Dim _myPrivateMemberVariable as Int
Jason Kester
Expat Software Consulting Services
http://www.expatsoftware.com/
"Mario Novado" <MNovado@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O6wpqACpFHA.2580@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Lately I came to know that Microsoft is suggesting to go with underscore
> for
> naming convention for variables (Am I right?).
>
For readability, an "applicant_last_name" is easier to recognize than an
"ApplicantLastName".
It is also easier for disabled persons to read (Section 508 compliance). I
could be wrong on this part (s-508).
John
I found these interesting links.
Naming conventions from MSDN
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...gguidelines.asp
Designing .NET class libraries: Naming Conventions (they talk about banning
the use of Hungarian notation)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframew...ntion
s/
MSDN link about capitalization
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...ationstyles.asp
This one has a chat with Brad Abrams (sp).
[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/transcripts/net/design_naming_conven_012605.aspx[/
url]
From what I've read, they are trying to de-emphasize the hungarian notation
for publicly exposed members in favour of Pascal naming (upper case and no
underscores).

Suggested means to cope with commas etc.

G'day,
In a typical 'contact us' type page what is a recommended way to ensure a message text box gets dealt with properly rather than break at comma's etc.

Is it as simple as using server.encodeHTML() on every passed variable? When I do this I still seem to have problems.

GeoffWhy would you break at commas? I don't get the problem.
Sorry. Error was happening when writing a record of the email to a database.

So if I can change my question...

Is there a best-practice' approach to handling commas etc. when writing to database eg:..."insert into myTable message = '" & server.encodeHTML(msg.text) & "'" is the sort of thing that was breaking if a comma existed in the textbox called msg?

Thanks,

Geoff
The commas should not mess it up within the quotes.

If an apostrophe appears within the string ('), then it will close the string and this is what will mess it up.

The best practice is to use Parameters. These will take care of all these issues as well as protect you against SQL injection and a few other problems you may not have noticed yet.

Suggested study guides

I'm getting ready to take the 70-305 exam. I've been programming in ColdFusion for about 5 years (and I don't feel I'm very good at that), and I'm being pushed to learn ASP.NET. What I'd like to know is if there are any online resources (without using cheat exams) where I can 'learn' what I need to know to pass the exams.

I do have access to w3schools nd I've been using that as a resource, but wondered if there were other online options that folks may be willing to share.

Thank You!
Lynn KeenHi Lynn Keen,
Did you look at the microsoft certificaton page. Also take a look at the codeclinic.com, that site has all the free links for every topic